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     Augustus William Hansen was born circa 1867. He married Mary (Pollie) Webster, daughter of Arthur Webster and Janet Heatherwick, in 1887 at Epsom, VIC, AUS.¹ Augustus William Hansen died in 1948 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS.²

     Occupation: (an unknown value). Michael Thomas Downey was also known as Michael Thomas Downie. He was born on 25 May 1862 at Woodend, VIC, AUS.¹ He became a State ward on 25 May 1868 at Princes Bridge Children's Home, Melbourne, VIC, AUS.² He was discharged as a State ward on 31 July 1873 at Industrial School, Sunbury, VIC, AUS. By order of the Governor in Council.² He married Elizabeth Webster, daughter of Arthur Webster and Janet Heatherwick, on 25 April 1883 at Deniliquin, VIC, AUS. The marriage of took place at the residence of Mr John Rudd (brother-in-law), rites of C. of E.³ Michael Thomas Downey died on 21 May 1919 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS, at age 56.^4,5 He was buried on 23 May 1919 at C of E: Com.: C Grave No: 812., Coburg, VIC, AUS. Funeral notice:
DOWNIE - The Friends of the late Mr THOMAS MICHAEL DOWNIE are respectfully invited to follow his remains to their last resting place, Coburg Cemetery.
The funeral is appointed to leave the residence of his daughter, Mrs Irvine, 61 Danks Street, Albert Park, This Day (Friday, 23 inst.), at 2.30 p.m.
R McKenzie, Undertaker, South and Port Melbourne. Tel. 1928.

From Coburg Cemetery records, in the same plot are Thomas Michael Downie aged 58 buried 23/May/1919, William Irvine aged 2 DY buried 29/5/1925 and Richard John C Irvine aged 2W buried 3/12/1926.⁶

     Arthur George Downie was born in 1889 at Collingwood, VIC, AUS.¹ He married Beatrice Ellen Quinn on 30 October 1911. Arthur George Downie died in 1951 at QLD, AUS.

     Henry Francis Downey was also known as Hoskins. He was born in 1892 at Deniliquin, NSW, AUS; The birth index gives the name as Elizabeth but I think this is an error and the birth being registered was that of Henry Francis Downie.¹ He married Elva M Moysey in 1914 at Deniliquin, NSW, AUS.² Henry Francis Downey died on 3 October 1949 at Mooroopna, VIC, AUS; C of E F155. HOSKINS - In loving memory of Henry Francis Hoskins loved husband of Elva died 10.3.1949 also our loving mother died 15.7.1974. Loved parents of Jack, Elva, Harry (Dec), Edgar (Dec), Frank and Doug.^3,4

     Dorothy was born at Hay, N.S.W., AUS, on 7 January 1896.¹ As of 5 August 1914,her married name was Judd.² She married Kevin Joseph Judd at Methodist Church, Neilborough, VIC, AUS, on 5 August 1914.² As of 7 May 1924,her married name was Crapper.² She married Albert James Crapper at Preston, VIC, AUS, on 7 May 1924.³ She became Dorothy Grace Crapper's adoptive mother at Neilborough, VIC, AUS, in 1938. Dorothy died on 6 October 1971 at Dunolly, VIC, AUS, at age 75.⁴ She was buried on 8 October 1971 at Mooroopna Cemetery, Mooroopna, VIC, AUS, .⁴

     Ruby M Downie was born in 1900 at Deniliquin, NSW, AUS; no father recorded on index.¹ As of 1922,her married name was Offord. She married Jack Offord at Hay, NSW, AUS, in 1922.² Ruby M Downie died in 1929 at Hay, NSW, AUS; Parents given as Peter and Florence.

It may be that Ruby took on the name of people who looked after her as her brother Harry did.³

     Leslie Martyn Downie was born on 17 January 1905 at Deniliquin, NSW, AUS; No father recorded, also registered under Webster.
DOWNIE.— On the 17th January at Wood street, Deniliquin, Mrs Downie, of Conargo, of a son. Weight 11½lb. Both doing well.
The Independent (Deniliquin, NSW) Friday 3 February 1905.¹ He married Clara Jane Donaldson on 27 August 1940. Leslie Martyn Downie died in 1975 at Dunolly, VIC, AUS.²

     Occupation: (an unknown value). William Sheppard (Bill) Downie was born on 3 December 1909 at Raywood, VIC, AUS; Bill's marriage certificate states his birthplace as Deniliquin. Bill Downie's birth was also registered in Victoria in 1909, Ref. 5836R, at Raywood, father not named, mother Elizabeth Webster. The birth is also registered as William Sheppard Webster with the same details.¹ He married Margaret Maud Gibson on 3 November 1934 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS. William Sheppard (Bill) Downie died on 11 September 1943 at age 33; Died when a POW on the Burma Rail. He was buried after 11 September 1943 at Thanbyuzayat War Cemetery, Myanmar (Burma), .

     Carlton Cathcart D'Arcy Malcolm Irvine was born on 30 May 1872 at Islington, MDX, ENG, .¹ He married Elizabeth Jean Downey, daughter of Michael Thomas Downey and Elizabeth Webster, on 24 November 1941 at The Manse, 103 Rowe Street, Fitzroy North, VIC, AUS.^2,3 Carlton Cathcart D'Arcy Malcolm Irvine died on 19 February 1957 at Albert Park, VIC, AUS, at age 84.² He was buried after 19 February 1957 at Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton, VIC, AUS. Plot MGC-COE-Comp-RD-No-130.⁴

     Kevin was born at Northcote, VIC, AUS, on 19 August 1888.¹ Occupation: Carpenter in 1908 at Northcote, VIC, AUS. He married Dorothy May Downie at Methodist Church, Neilborough, VIC, AUS, on 5 August 1914.² Kevin died on 2 March 1919 at Preston, VIC, AUS, at age 30.³ He was buried on 4 March 1919 at Coburg Cemetery, Coburg, VIC, AUS.^4,5

     Jack was born. He married Ruby M Downie at Hay, NSW, AUS, in 1922.¹ Jack died in 1962 at Deniliquin, N.S.W., AUS.²

     Clara Jane Donaldson was born in 1918 at Raywood, VIC, AUS.¹ As of 27 August 1940,her married name was Downie. She married Leslie Martyn Downie, son of Elizabeth Webster, on 27 August 1940. Clara Jane Donaldson died in November 1990.

     Occupation: (an unknown value). Margaret Maud Gibson was born on 6 April 1902 at Mackay, QLD, AUS. As of 3 November 1934,her married name was Downie. She married William Sheppard (Bill) Downie, son of William Sheppard and Elizabeth Webster, on 3 November 1934 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS. Margaret Maud Gibson died on 1 February 1986 at age 83.

     Kevin Leslie Judd was born on 19 June 1915 at Northcote, VIC, AUS. He died on 10 July 1963 at Mooroopna, VIC, AUS, at age 48.

     Arthur Judd was Bookmaker. He was born on 17 November 1917 at Preston, VIC, AUS. He married Dorothy Maude Wintour on 28 October 1942 at St James, Church of England, Tongala, VIC, AUS,

Judd—Wintour
A quiet but pretty wedding took place at St. James' Church of England, Tongala, on Wednesday, October 28, when the marriage of Miss Dorothy Maude Wintour, third daughter of Mr and Mrs W. Wintour, of "Roseleigh," Tongala, and Mr Arthur Judd, second son of the late Mr: judd and Mrs Crapper, Shamrock Hotel, Neilsborough, was solemnized by the Rev G. E. Roper.
The bride, who was given away by her father, looked charming in, a pastel, shaded pink gowen of silk net and lace over taffeta, the matching veil being held in place by a spray ot pink camelias, and she carried a bouquet of tiger lilies and maiden hair fern.Mrs L.L. Smith (sister of the bride) attended as matron of honor in-a frock of pale blue silk net over taffeta and Mr John Darveniza of Mooroopna, acted as best man. The Rev. Roper presided over the family gathering and twenty-seven . telegrams of congratulation were read, including one from the bride's brother Dick, who is in the Middle East. The two-tier wedding cake was made, by 'the bridegroom's mother. The usual toasts were honored. For travelling the bride chose a brown suit with lemon tonings. The future, home of Mr and Mrs A. Judd will be at Mooroopna.
Riverine Herald Saturday 7 November 1942. Arthur Judd died on 14 August 1988 at Mooroopna, VIC, AUS, at age 70.

     Albert was born at Neilborough, VIC, AUS, on 22 February 1876.^1,2 He married Dorothy May Downie at Preston, VIC, AUS, on 7 May 1924.³ Occupation: Hotel Keeper in 1930 at Neilborough, VIC, AUS. Albert died on 20 September 1938 at Bendigo, VIC, AUS, at age 62.

     Charles was born in 1893. He married Irene Alexandra Hollow at VIC, AUS, on 17 July 1940.² Charles died on 14 October 1950 at 7 Aroona Road, Caulfield, VIC, AUS.²

     Henry Cope was born on 1 November 1815 at Westminster, MDX, ENG, , birthdate is included on his baptism record.¹ He was baptized on 26 November 1815 at The Church of St Margaret, Westminster Abbey, Westminster, MDX, ENG, . Religion: Anglican, Father a mason, residence, Palmers Village.¹ His baptism name was Henry Coope This link is unproven, see Biography.

Henry Downey’s parentage is unproven; what I have included here is an interpretation of information that has been found to date.
The fact that Henry Downey and Bridget Newell had children including my great grandfather Michael Thomas Downey is proven by records. It is Henry's parentage that is unclear. A breakthrough came when a family member discovered records of a Tasmanian convict named Henry Cope. Henry was convicted at the old Bailey of thieving and sentenced to seven years transportation to Van Dieman’s Land (Tasmania) in 1832. Henry was sixteen when convicted, so born around 1816. Records show his native place was Westminster, Middlesex.
After being released with a Freedom Certificate Henry changed his name from Cope to Downey. Searching for a Henry Cope or a Henry Downey born or baptised around 1816 in Middlesex came up with a Henry Downey and a Henry Coope and both have links to the name Downey.
Henry Coope, baptised at St Margaret’s Westminster, Middlesex on 26 Nov 1815, born 1 Nov 1815 to John and Maria Coope. John was recorded as a mason living at Palmer’s Village.
A further search came up with a marriage record for a John Coope and Maria Downey. They were married on July fourteenth 1805 at St George, Hanover Square, London, Westminster, England. John made his mark, Maria signed the record. John’s occupation was recorded as mason.
There are several pointers to this being our Henry Cope. Dropping an O in his surname could have been common when the non reading or writing John Coope was giving his name to officialdom. Henry was a mason when first convicted. His father was a mason and it would not be surprising that his sixteen year old son worked in the same profession. He seems to have changed his name when he went to Adelaide after being granted a Freedom Certificate. A new name for a new start. Choosing his mother’s maiden name would seem a choice he may have made. Henry Cope/Downey’s native place was always referred to as Westminster in his convict records. There are many Maria Downeys born in Ireland, it may explain why Henry was known as a Roman Catholic in the convict records.
However:
There was a Henry Downey born at a similar time and place. There is a baptism record for a Henry Downey, born 14/12/1816 and baptised at St James Church of England, Westminster on 28/12/1816. His parents were Francis and Maria Downey, Francis was a plumber.
This scenario is attractive in that Francis and Maria are names that are found in Henry and Bridget’s family in the next generation and further generations. The dates and locality fit the data from convict records.
This scenario has a couple of problems, Francis was a plumber, and we might expect his young son to follow his profession. Secondly, would a sixteen year old give a false name when arrested for a pickpocketing offence? Also why would he pick the name Cope?
There are other Henry Copes and Henry Downeys, as well as sets of parents, to follow up on but these two are the best possibilities at the moment. The fact that the name Maria is in both families could mean the two families were related. Francis and Maria may have been siblings. I have not found any evidence that this is the case though.
It will need further research to prove this story is correct but it fits the data so far.

As of 3 October 1832, Henry Cope was also known as Henry Cope. He was convicted for stealing, one handkerchief, value 3 shillings at Middlesex Gaol Delivery and sentenced to transportation for a term of 7 years on 18 October 1832 at The Old Bailey, London, LND, ENG, .² He, a convict, was deported from England on 20 May 1833. On the ship Jupitor.³ He was granted a Ticket of Freedom in 1844 at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS. A reference to his free Certificate is found on 1845 Convict Record written when he was retransported from Adelaide in 1845. It contains a summary of his previous record which ends with the words 'Free Certificate No 51 1844.⁴ He was convicted with six others for coining half crowns. Sentence 10 years transportation. on 10 March 1845 at Adelaide, S.A., AUS.⁵ Around 10 March 1845 his name changed to Henry Downey. First referred to as Henry Downer alias Henry Cope in Adelaide newspaper reports. The name Henry Downey was used for the remainder of his sentence in Hobart and he seems to have used it for the rest of his life. He was granted a Ticket of Leave on 17 June 1850 at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS.^6,7 He and Bridget Newell obtained a marriage license on 15 August 1851 at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS.⁸ He married Bridget Newell circa September 1851. Henry Cope was granted a Conditional Pardon on 11 January 1853 at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS.⁹ They emigrated, on 26 July 1855from at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS, aboard the ship Tasmania bound for Sydney, N.S.W. Henry and Bridget had two children at this time, Mary Ann about 2 yo and Martin only one. They may have been too young to be recorded on the manifest..¹⁰ He died after 1869.

     Bridget Newell was born circa 1829 at Galway, IRE, . As of 1848, Bridget Newell was also known as Bridget Newel. She was convicted for sheep stealing, at County Galway June sessions 23 June 1848 and sentenced to transportation for a term of 7 years on 23 June 1848 at Galway, Galway, IRE, .^1,2

After her conviction in Galway Bridget was sent to the Grangegorman Female Prison in Dublin where she remained until she embarked for Van Diemen's Land on the convict ship Maria on May 4, 1849.

She was transported on 4 May 1849 from prison at Dublin, Dublin, IRE, . She and Henry Cope obtained a marriage license on 15 August 1851 at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS.³ As of circa September 1851,her married name was Downey. She married Henry Cope circa September 1851. Bridget Newell was granted a Ticket of Leave on 6 January 1852 at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS.⁴ They emigrated, on 26 July 1855from at Hobart Town, TAS, AUS, aboard the ship Tasmania bound for Sydney, N.S.W. Henry and Bridget had two children at this time, Mary Ann about 2 yo and Martin only one. They may have been too young to be recorded on the manifest..⁵ She died after 1871.

     Kevin Judd was born on 3 June 1859 at Wicklow, IRE, . He became a State ward on 8 June 1865 at Princes Bridge, Melbourne, VIC, AUS.¹ He was discharged as a State ward on 25 May 1866 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS.¹ He became a State ward on 13 May 1869 at Sunbury, VIC, AUS.¹ He was discharged as a State ward on 16 February 1871 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS.¹ At age 11 Kevin was adopted at Melbourne, VIC, AUS, on 16 February 1871.¹ He married Caroline Gay on 3 April 1883 at St Mark's Church, Fitzroy, VIC, AUS. Kevin Judd lived at at 19 Napoleon Street, Collingwood, VIC, AUS, in in 1886.² He ceased living at at 19 Napoleon Street, Collingwood, VIC, AUS, in in 1887.² Occupation: Carter and Dealer in 1888 at 59 Smith Street, Thornbury, Northcote, VIC, AUS.² He lived at at Smith Street, Northcote, VIC, AUS, in in 1888.² He ceased living at at 59 Smith Street, Thornbury, VIC, AUS, in in 1929; Changed from Northcote to Thornbury but is same address.² He died on 18 March 1930 at Bendigo, VIC, AUS, at age 70; Cause of Death, Cardiac Syncope and Cancer of Stomach.³ His body was interred on 20 March 1930 at Carlton, VIC, AUS, at Melbourne General Cemetery.⁴

     Caroline Gay was born on 2 July 1855 at Collingwood, VIC, AUS.¹ As of 3 April 1883,her married name was Judd. She married Kevin Judd, son of Unknown Judd and Elizabeth Dillon, on 3 April 1883 at St Mark's Church, Fitzroy, VIC, AUS. Caroline Gay died on 21 August 1905 at Northcote, VIC, AUS, at age 50.²

     Elizabeth Dillon was born on 11 February 1832 at Wicklow, IRE, ; Calculated from death certrificate. As of 30 January 1865,her married name was Marshall. She married James Marshall on 30 January 1865 at St Francis Church, Melbourne, VIC, AUS.¹ Elizabeth Dillon died on 30 September 1907 at The Terrace, Malvern, VIC, AUS, at age 75.

     Catherine was born at Carlton, VIC, AUS, in 1908.¹ She married Norman Henry David Hollow at VIC, AUS, in 1928. As of 1928,her married name was Hollow. Catherine died on 2 March 1982 at Huntingdale, VIC, AUS, .²

     Stanley was born on 5 February 1931.² He married Elizabeth Grace O'Brien in February 1956. Stanley Norman Hollow died on 5 October 2018 at Melbourne, VIC, AUS, at age 87.³

     Marjorie was born. She married Norman Stanley Hollow after 16 August 1947. As of after 16 August 1947,her married name was Hollow. Marjorie Elizabeth Agnes Calvert died on 28 September 2013 at Andrew Kerr Aged Care, Mornington, VIC, AUS; HOLLOW (nee Calvert), Marjorie Elizabeth. Passed away on September 28, 2013 at Andrew Kerr Aged Care Facility, Mornington, formerly of Geelong and Maroona. Wife of Norman (dec), mother of Alan and Pat. Mother, grandmother, great-grandmother and the last of her generation.
Published in Geelong Advertiser on 01/10/2013.

     Occupation: (an unknown value). James Webster was born on 24 November 1826 at Markinch, FIF, SCO, .¹ He was baptized on 10 December 1826 at Markinch, FIF, SCO, .¹ He was David Berry's son and living in the household on the 1841 census at Thornton, FIF, SCO, ; Ag Labourer. James Webster immigrated on 1 December 1852 to Melbourne, VIC, AUS.² He died on 27 May 1896 at Raywood, VIC, AUS, at age 69. He was buried on 29 May 1896 at Raywood Cemetery, Raywood, VIC, AUS. Fatal Result Of A Mining Accident -
The aged man James Webster, who was severely injured on Tuesday through falling a distance of 120ft down as alluvial shaft on the Neilborough Deep lead, died in the hospital at 11 o'clock yesterday morning. He was unconscious| when admitted to the hospital on Tuesday afternoon and remained so up to the time of his death. He was a very old and well known identity, having arrived with his three brothers in 1852 They at one time owned the Caledonian Crushing Battery at Epsom and later on they owned a battery at Huntly. He was 70 years old and unmarried. Two of his brothers survive him. Both live at Elysian Flat, one being 72 and the other 74 year: of age. They have always worked together as mates and from time to time have been pretty successful. Their last lucky hit was the finding of a 70oz nugget at Elysian flat. The funeral will take place on Friday from Elysian Flat to the Raywood Cemetery. An inquest will be held at the hospital this morning at 11. o'clock.
From a newspaper clipping in the family bible.³

     Occupation: (an unknown value). Alexander Webster was born on 24 February 1825 at Markinch, FIF, SCO, . He was baptized on 6 March 1825 at Markinch, FIF, SCO, .¹ He witnessed the census 1841 uk of David Berry; Ag Labourer. Alexander Webster was listed as Jean Thompson's son in the 1851 census at Markinch, FIF, SCO, ; widow. Alexander Webster immigrated on 1 November 1852 to Melbourne, VIC, AUS; Forname listed as Aley but is clearly Alex.² He died on 3 June 1896 at Raywood, VIC, AUS, at age 71.

     James Webster was born circa 1800 at SCO, . He married Jean Thompson on 2 March 1823 at Dysart, FIF, SCO, ; Jean was married as Jane Thomson. James Webster died before 1851.